>> just a guy snoring. >> he might not even be asleep. >> on the after the show show, more on this guy snoring. >> we're just going to watch him perhaps sleeping. >> stay tuned for the after the show show. fox news alert. the white house apparently bending to some of this pressure on the border matter. the president will travel to texas on wednesday tomorrow for a fund-raising trip and now saying he is willing to sit down with the governor of texas rick perry who has been very critical so far to talk about the wave of illegals coming across the border. we have not heard from governor perry's office. we're waiting that response. i'm bill hemmer as we going here in "america's newsroom." how are you doing? martha: doing well. good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. so this concession comes after governor perry said he wanted more than just a handshake on the tarmac when the president came to town. fox news obtained a letter from senior advisor valerie jarrett to governor perry and says this.

the president would welcome a meeting with you while he is in texas. he asked me to invite you to a meeting to discuss the situation on the border with faith leaders and local elected officials in dallas on wednesday. bill: we still have no plans for the president to go to the border to see what is happening first-hand. stephen hayes, senior writer "weekly standard." fox news contributor. with me this morning. this story seems to be changing in what sense, in what way? >> it is changing a little bit. yesterday he had declaration of the white house press secretary job ernest the president wasn't concerned about optics of issue going to the border. you are seeing that the white house is concerned enough to take this meeting with governor perry and sit down to attempt to have some kind of a substantive discussion about potentially a solution to the problem. bill: when you hear comments like this from a democratic congressman whose region is on the border of texas getting an influx of illegals and talking this way about the president and white house. >> i'm sure that president bush

thought the same thing he could just look at everything from up in the sky and, that he owned it for a long time. so i hope this doesn't become the katrina moment for president obama, saying he doesn't need to come to the border. he should come down. bill: is that what they're hearing now in washington? >> they may be hearing. certainly that is a lot of public discussion. i don't think going to the border is terribly important for president obama. he needs to make a decision. what matters what he decides to do on the substance of the issue, whether he engages in a photo-op or shakes hands or eeds to make a substantive decision. there is not question about what the problem involves. i think a matter here of the president finally making a decision he put off for too long. bill: there is request apparently for billions of dollars, that apparently is coming soon. what is that money for? what will it do? is that the policy you're seeing developing here? >> it appears the money at this

point will be overwhelmingly used to care and process people coming in, rather than an attempt to deport them. now defenders of the president would say, look, the money has to be spent that way because that's what the william will per force law requires. you have to -- wilbur force, requires. you have to process people coming in from central american countries not from mexico. others say the president disregarded law in so many other areas, why does he feel he has to enforce it precisely to the letter of the law in this particular instance? it is because he wants to. bill: back to governor perry. he will be a focus for the next several days. he went on sunday talk television and said, i wrote a letter in 2010, never heard a word. wrote a letter in 2014, never heard a word. what he says the white house is either inept or does not have the will to change anything. strong language. >> very strong language but i

think actually gives us a window how badly mishandled this entire immigration issue has been by president obama and his allies. governor rick perry is not a restrictionist on immigration. remember during the 2012 presidential election he was often viewed as sort of the most welcoming, the most left-leaning on immigration issues broadly. he was beat up by fellow republicans for being that way. for president obama and his allies not only lost rick perry, but lost rick perry and gotten him so ginned up on this issue speaks so badly how out of control this is for the democrats. bill: steve hayes leading our coverage out of washington. a lot to talk about today. thank you, steve. >> thanks, bill. martha: meanwhile another plane filled will legal immigrants landed in san diego yesterday moving thousands of women and children from the overwhelmed texas border and looking deep near the country where they can process these people in california. many of the people were supposed

to go to murrieta, california. you see what is happening there. they're not welcome there. the protests in the past few days stopped buses from getting to immigration center there. it's a mess basically. will carr joins us live from murrieta. will, do they expect more protesters to that area or other areas of california today. >> reporter: good morning, martha. we're expecting more immigration protesters and supporters today. they will be here to see if anymore buses try to come to this federal processing facility. yesterday we didn't see any buses but we did see several hundred people show up through the course of the day. there wasn't any violence but at times both groups did bet very heated. they shouting obscenities at each other. both sides say that they plan to be here as long as it takes. >> absolutely. i will be here tomorrow. i will be here tonight. when ever they need me and go home and work my two jobs to pay to support myself and probably end up having to pay for these illegal aliens.

>> we say we pride ourselves being americans we have to be part of america by doing citizen duty which we have to care. >> reporter: immigration supporters like that say it would be inhumane not to try to help the immigrants. on the other side, protesters here at murrieta say they're biggest concern if the immigrants are brought to this facility, it is a short-term housing facility. they fear after they're processed they will be released into their community. martha? martha: history shows that's generally what happens. so, will, is there any idea whether or not more planes are headed to california today? >> reporter: well, we had the plane land in san diego yesterday. there were reports that the immigrants were taken to a facility about ten minutes south of san diego. the local paper there is reporting that some of those immigrants were already processed and released into the local community. agreeing they would show back up at a later date. critics say that is not going to

happen. so far we've been seeing planes come to southern california once ever three days. local leaders in murrieta, quick to point out they're getting no information from federal authorities. they don't know if planes or buses are planning to come today, tomorrow or any point in the future. martha: good point. we talk toed mayor yesterday, he hadn't been told they were coming in the first place. i doubt anyone is keeping them posted on future landings coming the next few days. thank you very much. we'll see you later. bill: also the amount of, the number of children coming across the border growing exponentially last couple years. in 2011, "ice agents" nabbed 200,000 unbe a -- 2,000 unaccompanied. last year, 40,000 children n nine month span, october to june this year, 50,000 children have come here illegally and those are ones we know of.

extraordinary numbers. martha: your heart breaks. you see them sleeping under red cross paper blankets. they're under tough situation. politics and how they got there is huge part what is being worked out in washington and across the country. what do you think? how do we get to an answer here? is roundtable discussion with faith leaders and local officials and rick perry going to start us on a path to reform here? send us a tweet @billhemmer, @marthamaccallum. we'll share some of those as they come in. we'll look at them throughout the show and we'll put them up as' win fish. bill: more breaking news. israel vowing to stop hamas once and for all, launching a new round of airstrikes, lightings up the gaza strip here. israelis now talking about a possible ground invasion after the deaths of three teenagers including one american. john huddy live at the israeli-gaza border with more. what is the latest today, john?

hello. >> reporter: hello. bill and martha, there are several airstrikes behind me. i don't know if you see the smoke. that is gaza in the distance. there are probably by my count, four airstrikes launched three so five minutes ago. we that we heard rockets launched from gaza into southern israel. we heard what is called the code red warning. basically air siren warning of an imminent rocket attack though none have hit around here. before we get to some video earlier, let me, first of all, 10 people were killed in gaza as you take a look at that, by airstrikes. 60 wounded. among the dead we understand are four civilians, including two children when their home was hit during an airstrike. six others were also killed including hamas military commander. five we understand riding in a vehicle at the time of the airstrike. all this is part of operation protective edge. it started earlier this morning with the israeli air force attacking 50 hamas targets.

so far today dozens more. that number as we've been seeing grows seemingly by the hour. the israeli air force is targetting rocket launch sites, military bunkers, command centers, training areas. going after top hamas military commanders. yesterday the israeli military called up 1500 reservists. now we're hearing to add to the military contingent here along the border. now we're hearing that the military could be calling up another 40,000. also israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu met with military commanders earlier today, warning them, telling them to be prepared for ground invasion and saying quote, hamas shows escalation and it will pay a heavy price for it. bill, martha, back to you. bill: thank you, john huddy, israeli-gaza border. more coming up throughout the day on that. watch that story. >> we'll have more later this hour including an opinion peace by president obama where he praises palestinian president a

because but not mention prime minister netanyahu or process. retired general jack keane will join us on that later this hour. bill: some of the top stories watching right now, well, get your bug spray out. mosquito-borne illness striking u.s. in cases in two dozen states affecting quarter million in the caribbean. the virus can cause headache and severe joint pain for months or years. there is no cure. across the pacific in japan, a typhoon slamming island of okinawa. hundreds of people were forced to seek higher ground. the strongest storm in decades, packing 50-foot waves and severe winds. that storm is headed to japan's main island. guatemala, four people dead as the earthquake shakes the border near mexico, 6.9 magnitude, destroying dozens of homes and cracking foundations in that central american country.

martha: mounts after the obamacare deadline, thousands of americans who paid for coverage actually are still not getting coverage that they paid for. what is up with that? karl rove is here to weigh in on the insurance gap that it is called and problems causing it. bill: dozens of terrified people left dangling on a roller-coaster for hours. what hit the tracks that knocked the thrill ride off the rails. martha: that is not good. white house plan on immigration for these people. the president is now promising that he will have a substantive meeting with governor rick perry. what does that mean? what will they do at that meeting? he will also ask congress for billions in aid but does he have a clear endgame in terms of the president's plan for these people? all that coming up next. >> the obama administration said for years the border was secure. that was the backbone of the proposed immigration reform law. but it is not true and never has been true. the public was sold a lie.

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martha: more drama in this case. the defense team for oscar pistorius has now rested its case. closing arguments set to begin next month. a judge will eventually be the person who decides the fate of the double amputee athlete who is accused of murdering his girlfriend reeva steinkamp. pistorius claims it was an accidental shooting after mistaking her for an intruder. the prosecutors say the couple had argued before that shooting. bill: new fallout now on obamacare. mounts after the deadline to

sign up, thousands of americans who thought they had health insurance apparently still do not. "the wall street journal" reporting that many americans who paid their premiums are facing a coverage gap thanks to backlog and ongoing technical problems with the enrollment site. karl rove, chief advisor, deputy chief of staff to president bush, fox news contributor. how are you, sir, from austin, texas? you have a few things going on down there in texas, don't you now? >> a lot. bill: backlogs, technical glitches, stalled insurance policies. you saw the article. what do you make of it, karl? >> look, there is a problem with the back end of the computer systems used for these state exchanges that means that people sign up for policies and because the systems are not in place to transmit that information in a timely fashion to insurance companies and verify it, that these people have a gap between the time they think they have signed up and the time actually the insurance company gets all the information from the state government. there is also a similar problem, though not as severe on the

federal level. we're literally talking about hundred of thousands of people who have signed up. because the computer systems at the states and federal levels, don't work properly, they have a gap between the time they signed up and time they -- bill: there is not a lot of coverage frankly given to this. you're making the case this is the tip of the iceberg. the tip of the iceberg of what, karl? >> let's goly a litany of some of the problems. there is a problem how people's subsidies are calculated. some people are eligible to get assistance from the government in paying their premiums. but the federal government has problems calculating the subsidies properly. it is not all computerized and get done electronically. there is huge, billion dollar contract to verify the information individually. and as a result, people are signing up, thinking they're getting a certain level of subsidy and yet at the end of the day, when the process end weeks later or months later, they may find out they either

get more subsidy than they thought. same with premiums. the way we calculate, the way the system calculates premiums is turning out, first of all the promise they were going to be lower is turning out not to be true. they're dramatically higher, particularly for younger workers. if you are young, your premium is significantly larger than you would have had before the affordable care act. people are finding network problems. they get their policy they get their coverage. they think they can go to particular doctor or particular hospital and they find out the networks are much smaller or robust as they were before they had coverage. bill: health care is a huge deal. we were having problems in the past. increases were going up every year but fact thaw vote on it as a democrat, you passed it and signed it into law, whether it is a coverage issue, whether it is a cost issue, now you have, you bought that thing. you own that thing. and ed rollins was making, one more point. ed rollins was on our program yesterday and he was saying, all

the problems that you see with health care can be placed now on the administration that pushed through the health care plan. that's where you suffer in the midterms come november. how do you see that analyzed today? >> i think is ed is absolutely right. i would go one step further remember the president made a series of pledges, if you like your plan you can keep it. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. premiums will go down $2500 per family. most of the democrats, particularly senate democrats who voted for energies echoed the president's comments. president on film, them on film making promises simply not true. the revenue for example, this program is going to cost more than it anticipated because the people signing up are sicker than the government thought and are going to use more health care. then the president unilaterally took a whole series of revenue sources for this, like employer mandate, delayed them for political reasons. so the program has less revenue and more costs. if you're a democrat you will get stuck with being responsible

for all these things, particularly if you went out there echoed promises of the president. bill: one more point. back to "wall street journal" article. the administration claims 8 million people signed up for exchanges. >> not true. not true, not true. bill: hang on one second. there are no hard numbers how many consumers experienced coverage issues out of eight million enrollees, the number appears to be tiny fraction. i don't know, is it a tiny number or is it not, karl? >> look, they cite two states that are approaching 20,000 people. so i mean, look, we're talking about hundreds of thousand of people but you put your finger on an interesting point. first of all eight million people signed up for obamacare but you're not enrolled until you pay the first month's premium. we don't know how many people failed to pay the first months premium or second month's premium. the estimate may be approaching 10%. some estimates high as 15%. it is not eight million people. it is 7.2. in addition the federal government will give no more

estimates how many people actually signed up and answer kind of question you raised which is, how many people are actually not covered to this point who paid? bill: got it. >> the government will not us those numbers. bill: listen, you continue next time, okay? >> you bet. bill: a lot more to go through. got to run. karl rove down there in austin, texas. martha. martha: they came forward blowing the whistle on the va abuses that led to delayed care for our nation's veterans. now those same whistle-blowers are revealing retaliation they faced at work from their bosses. bill: yelling at the ballgame may not be the same. what is now on tap at one major league ballpark. ♪

martha: house veterans affairs committee is going to meet tonight on the va scandal amid new allegations that va officials were threatening reprisals against workers who dared to speak out. fox news has obtained, a quote, stand down email, that was sent by va leadership. and it was warning employees that they needed to stop communicating any bad news about the va regarding the probe into delayed care for our veterans. big news this morning on this. peter doocy live with more on the revelations. peter, when were the va employees told they needed to stop talking? >> reporter: martha, it was june 4th, more than a month after initial reports as many as 40 veterans dying waiting for care at phoenix bubbled up to the surface. when the deputy undersecretary of veterans affairs janet murphy wrote this, quote, please immediately stand down on any

further communications with stakeholders, delegation members and others regarding access audit, wait lists and accelerating care initiative. those instructions stood for six days. then on june 10th, there was about-face and new guidance with this. quote, let me clarify and add to my earlier message. communication with stakeholders, including veterans, veterans service organization, media and congress and state and local officials remains a top priority. the acting va secretary sloan gibson explains he wants information put out as fast as possible. he also wants it to be accurate. martha? martha: what is the reaction to niece new emails from people on the hill? >> reporter: the chairman of the veterans affairs committee, jeff miller, think the emails prove that the va is breaking the law. >> any memo that comes out of the central office that instructs people not to talk to members of congress, to give him the information they are asking for, is obstruct.

-- obstruction. >> reporter: they say they think this shows that people in charge of their care are most concerned with pr. >> if you're running a facility, you want a message that is coherent and you want, don't want employees going all over the place with what they're saying and doing. however in this case what we're seeing is not about messaging. we're talking about covering themselves up and covering up wrongdoing. and so there's a difference. >> reporter: two things to watch on the hill today. the president's nominee for va secretary robert mcdonald will meet with the veterans senate affairs committee chairman bernie sanders. tonight a house hearing about systemic problems i.d.'d by whistle-blowers including lack of protections at the va for those whistle-blowers. martha? martha: peter, thank you very much. bill: two airplanes on a collision course. one coming in for a landing. the other on the tarmac right there.

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martha: so the white house changing its tune a bit this morning on the border crisis, now asking governor rick perry to join a roundtable on immigration issues while the president is in texas this week. the invitation comes as pressure builds on the obama administration to do something. the big question now, does the white house even have a plan of what to do? here is bill o'reilly's take on what he calls the inaction. >> the truth is that president obama has lost control of the process. america's being threatened by terrorists once begin of the terrorists believe they're winning. the southern border is aive. -- a sieve. what is the administration doing in mexico? nothing. finally, in a perfect world all the press people would be given an opportunity -- oppressed people would be given opportunity to have better life. america is a place of opportunity. we should take a sane number of immigrants into our system.

with millions of mostly poor people pour into the country without resources to care for them, reeducate them, relocate them, is simply anarchy. martha: bernard whitman a former pollster for president bill clinton. gentlemen, welcome to you both. worth noting this conversation on the border between the governor and president has been going on for some time. we have a picture here of in 2010, jan brewer. this is rick perry. rick perry gave the president a letter on the tarmac saying please come do something. here is jan brewer, jan brewer, in 2010, saying, you know look, we need your attention. please come to the border to see what is going on here. the administration's answer, bernard, was always, we have a safer, stronger border now than ever if that is the case how are all these people getting in. >> the issue is big than border security. the reason for there is terrible

violence, economic poverty and human traffickers are spreading lies and misinformation to sail into the united states. the administration needs to do three things. number one we need to give the president authority as he has with immigrants from mexico to return undocumented immigrants immediately. i don't think that we should be treating children from guatemala or honduras or el salavador any different than mexico, number one. he number two, he does need money to speed up the legal process for people already here. third, perhaps more importantly we need to make investments as we've done in colombia, help kids down there return to school, get jobs and help stem the tide of immigration from the south. that is where the problem actually starts. investment will be a lot better return than simply strengthening border. martha: if all these problems were problems, we didn't have enough money, if we knew about the situation going on in these countries for a long time, which we did, how did we get so caught off-guard by the huge flood and

crisis situation, brad? >> we got caught up because there is lack of leadership, martha. in 2012 in the reelect, the president said our borders are secure. we should move on to other immigration reforms. the border has never been secure under this administration. it has been porous. more advantageous for illegals to come over under obama because he thumbs his nose at the law. refuses to even enforce laws we have on i am my grails. these kids didn't just get on their pikes come here. it was orchestrated. financed. who is behind it? the president, good leadership requires a leader to prevent bad things from happening, not merely respond when crisis develops. and, to lead through crisis when it bus develop. the president is leaderless. he is going to texas. refuses to go to the border. he is giving a meeting to the governor of texas not because he wants to. he is being forced into it. what kind of meeting will it be? he will not end that meeting with giving texas, arizona, new mexico, california, assets

needed once and for all to secure this border. >> it is uncomfortable situation. they talk about the optics. i remember the gonzalez case, different case. he came from cuba. this is how that ended. talk about bad, bad optics for clinton and janet reason know when the boy was ripped out of his closet at gunpoint. you have different situation mind you on the border where the children are being picked up by huge planes in south texas and being taken to other places. how on earth as josh ernest suggested, when they go through the process most of them will be sent back. how will you round them up and sent back, bernard. >> unfortunately it will take a lot of money and time. we need to give the legal system additional money to speed up to have more hearings. but again the point here isn't to politicize this the reason why the president i think was hesitant to meet with rick perry, rick perry is out of his mind to suggest that the administration is somehow ginning people up to come here illegally. that is absurd. the problem rests in the horrible conditions in central

america. frankly i think that, as i said if we make investments down there and give kids an opportunity to return to school, there is pilot program done in el salavador, 86% the kids that got, worked with actually returned to school and got jobs. martha: okay to come and you're not going to be sent back. you know how they got that message? historically people are not sent back. >> from human traffickers. got it from human traffickers trying to make a quick buck and exploit kids bringing them north. they are not coming on buses and sailing to the united states. martha: of course they are not. they are coming, brad, are they not, relatives went. everybody went and nobody will send you back. >> if we had a secure border it would be mexico's problem. they wouldn't get in. we can send american troops to secure border in iraq, afghanistan other places but not our troops to be first line of defense to secure our own borders? it makes no sense. the president had sense of

emergency sending emergency troops to iraq? why, because it was needed immediately. yet the president has no action at all when we have a crisis on our own border? it makes no sense. the fact is, and i have to allege this, because i believe it to be true, if you had democratic governors in the state of texas, and other places, in arizona, the president would have acted immediately. it is not in his interest to act. it will be republicans problem. that is the real insanity of what the president created on our own border. >> that is deeply offensive. why doesn't congress act and pick up legislation. >> because the president has the obligation as commander-in-chief to secure our border. >> give him authority to return these kids immediately and give him funding to do it. martha: to be continued. brad, bernard, thank you very much. gentlemen. see you next time. bill: police requesting medical records in the case of a georgia man accused of killing his son in a hot car. justin harris facing felony murder and cruelty charges. officers saying he left his

22-month-old son cooper locked in an suv for seven hours on is claims it was an accident. police are also looking into the child's mother for possible involvement. this case, grim reminder of the dangers of heatstroke for children left in hot cars and it is a bigger problem than many of us might think. jonathan scary live with that story. he is in atlanta. what do numbers tell us, jonathan? >> reporter: bill, all too common, on average, 38 children across the u.s. die from overheating in cars. 15 so far this year and the summer is still young. that information from kids in cars.org. while this recent case in suburban atlanta is investigated as homicide, child welfare officials say more often it is clear-cut accident. numbers could be reduced if people take action. if you see child left in a car, authorities say don't assume everything is under control, get help. >> body heats three to five times faster than of an adult. the younger the child, the more

susceptible they are to this kind of heatstroke. >> reporter: just recently tennessee authorities charged the parents of a 15-month-old girl with abuse and neglect after leaving her in a memphis grocery store parking lot. a passerby noticed the child in the hot car and called 911. first-responders broke a window to get her out and took her to a nearby hospital in stable condition, bill. bill: jonathan, when we look at this story, you wonder about information that needs to go out there and people that need to get it. what are you hearing from experts on that? >> reporter: the experts are saying this is something that is everyone's responsibility, even if they don't have kids of their own, even if they're not child caretakers. first of all, everyone who park as car should lock the doors. that is because while majority of cases involve parents and caretakers forgetting children who may be hiding or sleeping quietly in parked cars, a large number of cases involve children entering vehicles themselves. reentering the vehicles and becoming trapped. that happened to 6-year-old

sydney stanley of evans, georgia, who died after trying to retrieve a sunday school project from a family suv. the parents thought she was playing at a neighbor's house. the mom tear fully recalled how she came upon her daughter while paramedics were trying to resuscitate her. >> seeing her laying in the foyer, and begging them to saver. a lady came in and said it was too late. went in the ambulance and held her hands and just cried. >> reporter: there are consumer products just this month of the one company is bringing to market a new invention called aviso in-car alert. detects when a child is in a car seat and emits a beep when the ignition is off. as rule of thumb, georgia authorities are telling anyone, people in the habit of taking care of children to search their vehicles, not once, but twice to make sure no kids are sleeping

or hiding inside. and then, to lock the doors before they leave them. bill? bill: so hot in that town in the summertime. jonathan, thank you. jonathan serrie. martha: well it's a first for major league baseball stadiums. target field, home of the minnesota twins, tapping into self-serve beer. bill: hot dog. martha: the stadium rolled out new vending machines that allow fans to buy the brews by the ounce. it debuted sunday. you have to show i.d. at concession stand to get a vining card. i was wondering how that would work. 48 ounces every 15 minutes. what? bill: 4ounces? that is like a funnel. martha: no more. bill: come on here. instagram that. >> oh, my gosh. bill: 48 ounces every 15 minutes. martha: fun time at the ball game. bill: go twins. a hail of rocket fire hitting israel. israel respond with airstrikes. are ground troops next?

is this another war in a region filled with turmoil? general jack keane on that next. martha: irs officials at a federal judge this week. is this how we get answers finally to the missing lois lerner emails? ask the judge to get them. >> if i told them i lost my emails and couldn't come up with records i needed to file my taxes, that wouldn't stand. i would still be held accountable and so should irs be held accountable for their lapse in judgment.

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martha: crisis averted but barely. look at this dramatic video. watch this. plane landing, plane about to takeoff. this is in barcelona, spain. one jet comes in. it was just feet apparently from touching down when another taxied along the runway in front of it. the pilot of arriving plane, put pedal to the metal and went into sharp climb be to avoid that disaster. can you imagine? bill: rockets flying across the

border of the gaza strip yet again. the violence escalating as president obama pens an op-ed for an israeli newspaper praising leadership of the palestinians after the deaths of israeli and palestinian teenagers there, writing, president abbas, israel has a counterpart committed to a two-state solution and security cooperation with israel. the president however did not have the same praise for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. general jack keane, good morning to you. i want to broaden this out. you can throw a dart at the map in the middle east and there is countless countries still in turmoil as we watch yet again today. first on this matter, how much of a big deal is it that we've been unable to help or to shape the events there between israelis and palestinians? >> well, we've got almost an intractable situation here

because we have a terrorist organization, hamas, which is also a governing authority in gaza, duly elected. the fact of the matter is, not only do they not recognize the state of israel, but they want its destruction. so the idea that we're going to find an accord here is not going to happen in the near term. what is happening here, bill, is we picked the scab off of a deep wound that just described and that's what this crisis is about. certainly the death of these teenagers and the revenge killing are all part of that but the deeper wound is really the issue. and what makes hamas so much a dangerous organization because it gets increasing support of rockets and missiles from syria and from iran and their technology in numbers and quality is improving. bill: it is getting better and better each year. the inability to shape any events, whether the middle east

process started and stalled yet again, events in iraq unfolding day by day, war in syria unfolding what becomes of afghanistan. once more in the middle east, barack obama is looking to blame other force a mess that has grown since 2009 but mostly he wants out of the lose-lose region at any costs. he wishes someone would make the bad things go away. is he on to something? >> certainly. the major external influence in the middle east for generations has been the united states. the fact of the matter is, this president, unstated policy, beginning in 2009 and certainly taking hold in 2011 for sure, was to disengage from the middle east. and while the fact of the matter raced call islam would continue to push, we, by our absence have accelerated this. we did not act in syria. the president refused the

recommendation of panetta, clinton and petraeus to arm the syrians. we we wound up in libya with stalemate for four months because the president used half-measures in application of air power. we pulled out of iraq in 2011. also we did not keep surge forces in afghanistan and pulled them out over the objections of general petraeus. and also after benghazi, the fatal flaw is that we did not track down and kill these terrorists the way we had post-9/11. bill: all that leads to such a dramatic reversal for the whole region. i've got to run, general. but this is something that will stick with us for some time and who knows how it unfolds. good to have you back on today. thank you, sir, very much in washington. >> good talking to you, bill. bill: you as well. martha. martha: a nightmare at a major u.s. theme park. why riders on this roller coaster were trapped for hours. look at this? they were up in the air for hours. we'll tell you what happened after this.

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martha: all right. this did not come with the price of a ticket. rescue teams called in after thrill seekers get more than they bargained for. the roller-coaster they were on came to a sudden halt. look at these pictures. dozens of passenger were stranded in mid-ride. that is not where you want on the royal are coaster because you're in a bad or strange position. they were 20 feet up in the air in a california six flags. william la jeunesse is in the west coast newsroom to tell what happened. hi, william. >> reporter: normally this is a blast. known as the black belt of roller coasters and cars above and riders dangle below to give you sense of flying. this is one of only four in north america. youtube is filled with videos

taken by riders as the suspended coaster whips through the trees and mountain passes at 55 miles-an-hour. monday night, one of the trees fell on the tracks bringing the ride to a dead stop. >> sounded like they were panicking. they didn't know what to do. >> people are scared. they're confused. there are minor injuries are reported. they want to make sure they're safe. >> reporter: 22 riders suspended in midair. firefighters chained the front car which was derailed to the steel beams above so it wouldn't fall, 20 to 30 feet of the ground. the attraction was difficult because of canyon where it occurred, forcing them to use a cherry-picker to pull riders down one or two at a time. the ride remains closed while the accident is under investigation. six flags, the rest of the amusement park remained open. martha? martha: any injuries to speak of? >> reporter: 22 riders, four

injuries. two requiring hospital attention. one with a knee injury and one with a neck. considering minor. all were in the front car when it hit the tree. the ride was built in 1988. one previous mishap, one man jump ad fence to grab a hat. he died. ninja riders want ad thrill. imagine, martha, coming around a turn at 40 miles an hour, you see a tree, nothing you can do. martha: that is really scary. sound like they made out fairly well with the injuries considering what happened. william, thank you very much. bill: a change of plans for the president. the white house bending to pressure over the crisis on our border. he wants to meet with texas governor rick perry, a meeting the governor wanted for four years but what will the governor say? martha: will mitt romney be back at at another run for the white house? why a leading republican says the former governor will not only run again but he believes he will win. p÷úññ @úñx

president obama apparently bowing to political pressure as another plane load of illegal immigrants arrived in california. they invited rick perry to a meeting while the president is in the state later this week. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i am martha maccallum. >> and i will bill hemmer. just about a day ago the white house insisting there was no concern with the president vi t visits texas without planning to go to the border. now a changing of plans of meeting with perry but not going to the border himself. >> ed henry is live. why the change of heart? >> i think you are right about the political heat and it isn't coming just from the republicans now. you had democratics from texas

saying the president should go to the border and they be he has been late to deal with this. josh ernest pushed back saying the president has been all over this. but rick perry pushed back on the idea of meeting the president on the tarmac and wants to have a real meeting and that forced the white house's hands a little and that is this letter was sent to the governor that says let's sit down and meet. i expect the governor will say yes and they will meet with faith leaders to talk about this issue. maybe the president thinks his hand is stregthened because he wants to talk about the broader matter but until me fixes this crisis he has no way of getting

a long-term deal. >> there is discussion about beefing up legal capabilities and the ability to house these people and meeting with faith leaders and local leaders and you know what is the plan? a lot of people still scratch their heads saying what are you going to do about the crisis that exist on the ground right now? >> you are right. and that is why the president is under pressure and i think we will have new information in the next few moments. we are expecting white house aids to reveal a specific budget of at least $2 billion or more for the president to seek out what you talk about. they need more immigration lawyers and judges to process the cases. but beyond dealing with the process there is a broader question about is the border

secure and does he have an answer for dealing with the crisis. >> the white house has said they spent more and did more to secure the border than the other presidents. that has been a point of honor. so what this money needed for if they have been doing it? >> you are right. the president was mocking republicans and he was saying secure the border and they want a mote or throw alligators out there or something. he was mocking the republicans. and speaker john boehner said he are not doing immigration reform on a broader skill until you secure the border. the president has to deal with this short term to get the long-term plans.

>> lou daub dobbs is here. what is he going to do? >> he has no choice. he is going to do what he will do. he is doing nothing. and to this point he has gotten away with it, bill. we are talking 60,000 so-called unaccompanied children cruise crossing the border and the media isn't asking how could these kids, 12 and under, get from the three countries of order -- guatemala, honduras and mexico -- 1800 miles without the

help of the mexican government or our government. >> we put that question to the mayor of maretta. alan long is his name. >> whatever we do here we will maintain the safety of everyone. but that is a band aid. if we don't fix the problem in washington, d.c. it will happen over and and over again and that needs to be done at the federal level. >> the governor in california hasn't contacted him, immigration isn't talking to them -- no one is talking it him. >> this president feels he has the permission and power because it will not be checked by other branches of government or sought by the national media.

he is not securing the border as ed henry reported. he mocked republicans that said we have to control the border. if we can't control the border we cannot control immigration and if we cannot control immigration we cannot reform it. >> it will be interesting in dallas tomorrow. and this is what we found from american voters a month and a half ago. when asked what should the government policy toward illegals be 67% say a pathway to sit -- citizenship. i wonder if you asked that today if the answer would be different. >> most americans are forgiving

even of those that passover our border. but this can't be a deal from president obama and the gop leadership because the president has shown he is going to defy law and his constitutional authority for immigration and border patrol law -- if there is a concern for illegal immigrants this is an odd way to show. this law was tested in 2006 and at any point the democrats could have resolved this. four bills in the senate and republican party had to move the bills through to solve it but the president resisted and fought for the amnesty in the senate. it is a shame. it is a poor leadership. >> we will catch you on fox news later tonight. >> got a deal.

what do you think about this? there are plans that the white house might be pulling back on many or most. is the round table with governor perry going to be enough? send us a tweet and we will share them later in the show. so the first store to legally sell marijuana for recreational purposes is opening in washington state. the latest state to get underway with this. the merchant is expecting long lines and supplies to run out. dan springer is live in seattle. dan, how is it looking so far? >> well, martha, maybe to the surprise of no one the pot heads are sleeping in on his historic first day of legal sales in the state of washington. there are more members of the media outside of cannabis city

in seattle than there are customers. eventually there will be over 300 pot retail stores throughout washington state. it is a tightly regulated system with very little surprise. cannabis city has only ten pounds of marijuana to sell. buyers are limited to baggies with two grams. another for four joints and cost $50. shop owners are hoping the regulations work. >> it is a gamble for us as w l well. if the federal government steps in and says no more the amount of money we invested into the business is unfortunately for nothing. >> reporter: and cannabis city opens its doors at nigh noon. i kid you not. >> not everybody is excited about this in the state of washington, i would imagine, right? >> reporter: no, plenty of

people are worried about this leading to drug addiction. we have seen hospitals reporting seeing more adults in their emergency room getting sick eating foods with pot and the roads seem to be less safe. the percentage of drivers impaired tested at a lower percentage than now. >> kids will have short-term memory, can't get up in the morning to go to school, and kids using alcohol and marijuana together like most do having trouble negotiating and meeting the life demands they have. >> reporter: legalization may not end with colorado and washington state. voters in alaska are voting in the fall and oregon may go that way as they possibly have a note

in november. >> cannabis city. never thought we would see the day. every think we would have a street with cannabis city. >> it is 7:00 in the morning. wake up, everybody. the irs is headed for court his week. a federal judge wants to know why outside experts were not brought in to try to find lois lerner's lost e-mails. >> and could mitt romney take another run at the white house? one lawmakers is way out on a limb on this saying mitt is going to run and win. >> a new heart pounding ride is about to open up. you have never seen a water slide like this before. check it out. check it out.

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hearing in front of a federal judge to see why the irs will not let them have anyone coming in from the outside to help them get those e-mails out of there. the hearing is part of the lawsuit over the targeting of conservative groups. the irs is blaming a hard drive crash for the laws loss of e-mails. and true the vote president, a group targeted, said this goes deeper than a crashed hard drive. >> there is something far more dirty and deliberate at play. every piece of electronic writing leaves a digital signature and the question is do they want to find it.

to this point the answer is no. >> joining me is rich lowry, editor of nation lal inquire. they went to congress, tried to get answers from the white house, department of justice -- no body. so now they are going to the court and saying you help us figure this out and get forensic here. >> the irs has two hearings and both are in front of judges who have no non-sense reputations for independence. but true the vote is saying if they are innocently lost, let us come in and we can see. the head of true the vote has a right to be suspicious because they were put through the ringer by the irs with hundreds and hundreds of question asked when

they made the non-profit status request. when the irs ask you questions they don't let you say we lost what you want to find. >> these organizations, many of them were asked, who do you pray for and what books do you read. intrusive questions. and what they want is what lois lerner wanted. lois lerner said i called the it folks and tried to get the e-mails out and she said she has nothing to hide and has done nothing wrong. so lois lerner you should be the first one saying bring the forensic folks in and have them open this up because i want them behind me. >> even the commissioner said it is suspicious. if they have nothing to hide this is a wonderful way with to prove it. let true the vote, this organization that is suspicious, let them send a forensic investigator and if it checks out the irs will be vindicated.

but the irs has lawyered up and says there is no evidence there is evidence in the e-mails. >> it isn't a private entity. this agency is provided for by the taxpayers of the united states and they turn around and take the money back from us. how can they stone wall like that? >> if there is one agency of the u.s. government that has to be above approach and no doubts about integrity it is the irs. >> the president and doj said there is not a smudge of

corruption here so the book was closed by the doj. >> there is the statement by the president initially where everyone professed to be outraged. after a year passes he has zero interest in and the justice department did zero to investigate it and the irs is not interested in cooperating. >> so the court is the last thing for true the vote and other organizations that are looking for an alternate way to have a system of checks and balance because it doesn't appear there is one. >> true the vote has to say it will suffer harm if this discovery doesn't take place. we will see, depends on the judge's attitude and if he has the same attitude others do, maybe something will happen here.

>> they said the e-mails were going to be turned over in due course and he has been surprised by all of these revelations as well. rich, thank you. see where it goes this week. a little baby girl in a stroller found alone on a new york subway. police say she was abandoned by the mother and police have found the mother and want to know why. >> updates on the u.s. attorney jailed in mexico. we will talk to the attorney fighting to get him released. >> we have folks from georgia who wrote in for independence day and the fact andrew isn't free. everyone is asking mexico to do the right thing and release him.

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the police have found the mother who is accused of abandoning her baby in a new york city subway station. the 6-7 month old baby girl is in the care of child services in new york city. surveillance video show her pushing the stroller on to the platform and she gets on the train and leaves the stroller behind. the 20-year-old mother is being questioned. so far no charges have been filled. a fox news alert about 30 minutes from now. benghazi suspect ahmed abu khattallah is back in court. we are learning more about the terrorist strike on the american center in benghazi. catherine heritage is live outside the court house with more. what do we expect today?

>> reporter: ahmed abu khattallah arrived at the court house about three hours ago with heavy security and u.s. marshal patrolling the streets. they will layout key dates for the prosecution ahead of time. it is the first time he will appear before the judge. judge chris cooper. he was nominated by the obama administration and took his place on the bench earlier this year. we will probably learn more about the government's case today. >> what are we learning so far that we can approach? >> reporter: we have had very limited documents but what they claim is he is part of a conspiracy to provide support to terrorist with the expectations they would be attacking the federal facility and it led to the death of chris stevens and

sean smith. there is no mention of this being a spontaneous event or a video. >> the limited, sort of place holder indictment we have seen so far, puts a lie to the administration's talking points about a spontaneous video and all of the rest of it. this is 180 degrees from the administration's first talking points. >> reporter: based on the documents, what the government is saying there was a conspiracy that started in the days leading up to the 9/11 attack, it was coordinated and premeditated. there is no reference to the video being a catalyst and that is significant because hilary clinton said on her book tour

the crowd might have been motivated against the video but these people say that wasn't part of the equation. >> more coming up at the top of the hour. thank you, catherine heritage. u.s. military bases are being used for the immigration crisis. >> and the ballpark is a good place for a nap -- right? one fan getting serious shuteye and now he is firing back and wants money. >> he didn't know cameras were all over the place. >> i should we a ban at a ballpark and take a nap and sue them? how does that work? >> sue me! to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm. amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief.

the pentagon is getting dragged deeper in the this immigration crisis. the obama administration is looking for ways to care of the children and now the president is ordering the military to take care of it. how many children are being housed at the facilities? >> reporter: it is changing hour-by-hour. but in san antonio they can house up to 1200 children. there are 1, 150 now.

in ventura they have capacity for 500 and in fort sill in oklahoma they have room for 1200 and are just about that limit. the pentagon doesn't want to play an extended role in preparing them and the defense department is capping the number of days they will hold the children at 120. >> lawmakers want to see what is happening on the bases. will that be allowed? >> reporter: several have tried but many have failed. the biggest one has been in oklahoma they were denied and told they could make an appoi appointment in three months. the media is allowed but no interacting with staff, no questions and no photos or

videos inside. we will see how many in the media want to take them up with those conditions in place. >> before i get you go, was the pentagon taken by surprise or did they know if anything like this were to happen they would be responsible for housing the children? >> it is interesting because when he heard dhs secretary, jay johnson, talk about this he said he knew about it months ago during his conformation hearings at the end of last your. so the administration has been on notice and i have talked to folks in the national reserve and that thing and they said they have been told, some of them, by their leadership, you need to be prepared. we maybe calling you up to active duty to help deal with the situation so know the potential is out there. >> thousands of illegals want to know if they will say or go and one prisoner in mexico is

wondering if he can come home. andrew tahmooress seems comfortable about his release. the next hearing is tomorrow. and phillip dunn who is his criminal defense attorney who played a role in getting a new attorney for him. the sergeant's mother is headed to mexico today and you are going after the interview. do you expect him to be sprung from jail tomorrow? >> i don't think we can anticipate that. it is an interesting system where they will take the hearing and presentation of defense evidence in sections. so we are probably going to put some of our best evidence forward tomorrow but at this point we cannot really say what the judge is going to do. he can rule at any time. and it is a long process but

this is the first time we are presented something, proved up he is in fact innocent and we are hoping we will get some resolution before too long. >> i want our viewers to know you provided us with video. this is dash cam video of i am assuming the border crossing. what are we watching? >> that is correct. this is the just letting you know that once you get on that particular on ramp which in itself is deceiving as to where you are going that you cannot turn around and you are forced into mexico. and what is very clear from andrew has stated and i think even the custom's officials in mexico will say is he came up on the border and got the green light to go through and instead he asked can i turn around and

they said go over here and then you are in secondary and being inspected. unfortunately in mexico they have the same defense we would have here and that is a lack of criminal intent. if you didn't intend to take the guns into mexico that is a complete defense so that is what is going to be presented tomorrow. >> there is a second video you provided of an ambulance and i believe that is what we are looking at now. what is significant about this piece of video for a judge in mexico, phil? >> it shows you how difficult it is to try to turn around and not go into mexico. this ambulance had to turn on its emergency lights and almost didn't get through. >> is this what you are going to present to the court? is this part of the defense you described earlier?

>> not yet. we have to authenicate this and put it into judge's file in mexico and i think we will do that at the appropriate time. what is going to be presented tomorrow is andrew's statement and examining of the custom officials which will establish that he clearly didn't want to go into mexico and that he asked to be allowed to return to the united states. so that is the bases of his innocence. >> he said i am innocent this week and it is just a big mistake. he has expressed that with us on numerous anatioccasions. how is he doing? >> he is doing better. he had a horrible time at le mesa but because of the news and

media he was transferred and he is under 24-hour guard and care and he ministries that go see him every day through organizations like baha christian ministries and a fellowship we have been involved with that go see him every day and his spiritual, physical, and emotional health is much better than when he was in le mesa. >> let's get him home. good luck. we will follow it. >> a baseball fan is crying foul and suing after broadcasters made fun of him sleeping during a game. there he is. the man in question. shhh, don't wake him up. he was dozing during the game against the boston red socks bag

in april and the espn announcers let loose and made fun of him. he is filing a lawsuit against the team, sports channel, and major league baseball seeking $10 million in defamation. do you think he has a case? >> absolutely. poor guy. worked hard and worked for the kids to get to the ballpark. >> you are in a ballpark and there are cameras around you. if you fall asleep you maybe pointed out. >> the judge will take that and say you are out of here. back to work. i bet he has a sore net neck. >> i wonder if that is his wife next to him. >> oh, in front. >> oh, yeah, she is in front.

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mitt romney has always proved he is going to do stuff. i'm in the camp he is going to run and think he is going to be the next president of the united states. >> let's talk about this with david web and tammy bruce. welcome to you both. when i saw this i thought mitt romney said he is not going to run but people say that and change their mind. >> it is politics and politicians that seek elected office say it all of the time. chris matthews' answer is a fluff question. they are showing how bad obama is in the polls and how romney would have done. it is a fluff piece. so many things are more important in this country that

we need to focus on. it is the 288,000 jobs and 275,000 part-time jobs. we have a border crisis. and matthews lives in the fluff world. >> i hear what you are saying. let's show everyone the poll that got everybody revisiting this issue. better off with mitt romney as president 45% say yes, 38% worse, and 10% say about the same. tammy, what do you make of all of this? >> you know the numbers actually a little over me. i am worried he is not over 50% considering everything we are experiencing and the fact he was right on everything. when you look at what unfolded especially in the interrationna

arena this came up because of the international status. if elizabeth warren becomes president we have trouble. so republicans have to realize and think about the fact that americans might want a doover with a man who has been correct. they were not treated well for being the proper choice and this is a chance for americans to get it right and to get somebody in who can make a difference. >> i remember mitt romney saying he wasn't that excited about the second run for the presidency but his wife ann encouraged him to run. it is hard to imagine they will rev it up for a third one. part of his endorsement video for scott brown and a big chink

of the video for scott brown seems to be all about mitt. >> we are at a crossroads. at the same time we have lost a lot of esteem and influence around the world because we have become the victim of circumstances. >> what do you think of that? >> smart. he was well in new hampshire and he is being well-received. romney is a positive influence because he is a turn around specialist. this is someone that saved the salt lake city games, built businesses, and knows how to govern. >> the american people have had two shots at having mitt romney

as president and now you have chris christie factor and jeb bush. put him in the mix of the people more talked about and who do you think would get the nomination if he was in there. >> it took reagan three times as well. scott walker is an interesting individual. trey gowdy, paul ryan shouldn't be considered at this point. i think mitt romney is a stat statesman and this is what americans are missing. if you attach him to another governor like scott walker they cannot miss. they have an organizing balance from the outside and they will do better. >> david, weigh in. >> tammy is so dead-on about

this. we need to find a statesman and leader and has demonstrated the skill set woe we need to govern. it is 2014 folks. we have to take the senate and send bills to the president. we have the stop the harry reid and obama agenda or by the time we get to 2016 we will have a most of problems that no one presidency will fix. >> the thing that makes things fun is watching surprises and they happen and things turn out the way no one thought. thank you both. jenna lee is waiting on deck with "happening now." >> breaking news on where the gop will hold their 2016 convention and new revelations on the va scandal and why the vets are not getting the care they need and the latest

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really scary and really fast is the way to describe this water slide. 60 miles per hour is the speed you will get. we have one of the co-owners of the water park. how are you doing, jeff? >> very good. >> you have to tell our viewers what this is like. going 60 miles per hour down a slip and slide. >> this is the fastest, tallest, steepest slide built anywhere in the world. my first trip was the scariest thing i have ever done. i didn't think i could do it at 60 but i had to because the state of texas pride was riding on it. >> and you fulfilled that pride. what does it feel like? stomach drop out? >> the first 60-feet of the drop

is a free fall. you don't touch the slide at all. few second later you hit the bottom think everything is great and hit another hill and pressurized water shoots out and throws you over the second hill and the second hill scared me worse than the first because i had no idea what was on the other side. it was like a big roller coaster but better. >> it sound great. there has been delays and problems with this. do you think this ride, which by the way is nicknamed a german name that means crazy. >> in sasane. >> even better. is it open for the public?

>> it opens tomorrow. i was the first rider and now i will be the first public rider. >> no delays for tomorrow? >> it doesn't appear unless my guys think of one. >> don't chicken out. >> i will not chicken out. my contract requires me to ride it. >> make texas proud. jeff henry, good luck. >> come out to kansas and enjoy it. >> you first, though. >> he is terrified but he is like i am the owner. here is what is coming up. back to talk about what is going on in california where people are furious as they fight to block the bus led loads of immigrants coming in. this battle is getting ugly. we will be right back.

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